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Talking Stick Golf Club Piipaash Course is an 18-hole public course in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Designed by Coore and Crenshaw. It plays 6,833 yards from the Black tees, rated 72/126 (checked 2026-08-15).

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18
holes
71
par
6,833
yards (tips)
126
slope (black)
The shape of the round · Black teespublished figures only
HOLE ORDER — BLACK TEES405419228327471386516476177404392441152541443548184323142433445464758493104114124133145154165173184PAROUT 3,405 YDSIN 3,428 YDSFIRST NINESECOND NINE
The published card in playing order, 18 holes with the two nines split — hole number under each bar, its par below that.

The course

designer
Coore and Crenshaw reported
access
public
address
East Talking Stick Way, Scottsdale, AZ, 85258
phone
480-860-2221
elevation
1,306 ft derived
opened
1998
turf
Poa Trivialis greens · Bermuda grass fairways

33.53914, -111.86245 — open on OpenStreetMap →

The course, from above

This map shows all 18 holes, their lines predicted by a model from USDA NAIP aerial imagery and numbered against the scorecard. Its greens, fairways, bunkers and water are predicted the same way. The course outline is predicted too, drawn around the predicted holes and wide of the mown ground, so the real property line may sit wider or tighter.

70 features across 6 layers for Talking Stick Golf Club Piipaash Course, all 70 predicted by a model, drawn over NAIP 2023 aerial imagery.

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70 features across 6 layers for Talking Stick Golf Club Piipaash Course, all 70 predicted by a model, drawn over NAIP 2023 aerial imagery. The map itself needs JavaScript; the geometry is a plain GeoJSON file either way.

© OpenStreetMap contributors · Holes and outlines predicted by a model trained on OpenStreetMap data · GeoJSON

Holes and outlines predicted from USDA NAIP imagery · Contains information from SatlasPretrain, which is made available under the ODC Attribution License

18
Holes · predicted
19
Fairways · predicted
11
Bunkers · predicted
3
Water · predicted
18
Greens · predicted
6,833yds
Black tees
548yds
Longest hole
152yds
Shortest hole

All 70 predicted by a model from aerial imagery, hole lines and edges unchecked · USDA NAIP 2023-09-15

Tees & ratings

Ratingsopen datachecked 2026-08-15

All 7 tee sets par, yardage, course rating, slope — the full table

Sorted by Yards, descending. 7 rows.

BlackM71683372.012634053428
GoldM71643069.712032083222
GoldF71643075.213032083222
Gold/JadeM71604067.4117
Gold/JadeF71604072.0123
JadeM71533164.910826812650
JadeF71533169.111726812650

Every figure as published; a blank cell is one nobody publishes. Front 9 and Back 9 are summed from the per-hole yardages on the scorecard.

Scorecard

Scorecardopen datachecked 2026-08-15

Hole 123456789101112131415161718 Total
Par 443444543444354534 71
Black 405419228327471386516476177404392441152541443548184323 6,833
Gold 391397195309447363496455155384358417136521417520162307 6,430
Jade 332351125288402278411388106273276343102489361400118288 5,331
Handicap 133717115951110821664141812

No per-hole yardages are published for Gold/Jade, so it is not on the card above.

The Studio

The Studio can't plan Talking Stick Golf Club Piipaash Course hole by hole yet.

We hold its scorecard and 70 of its features, all 70 predicted by a model, but not a model of every green, which a plan aims at.

It plans 4,579 courses hole by hole today, and it charts your bag anywhere.

  • The approach, planned A Studio approach map on the aerial photo: a lob wedge aimed at the island green, its spread drawn as a dashed ring over the water, and the side it most often misses. Example from another course: hole 15, Resort tee, Stadium Course at TPC Scottsdale
  • The green, from LiDAR A Studio green view on the aerial photo: arrows for the slope a LiDAR survey measured, the area a cup could be cut, and the safer side to miss. Example from another course: hole 15, Stadium Course at TPC Scottsdale
  • Every shot, tee to green A Studio plan on the aerial photo of a desert par 4: the driver off the tee and a 7-iron into the green between the bunkers, each shot with its landing spread drawn as a dashed ring. Example from another course: hole 2, Resort tee, Stadium Course at TPC Scottsdale

See the courses it plans Open the Studio

Pictures: Studio output for a sample golfer, drawn 2026-10-15. The Studio needs a free account. AI can make mistakes.

© OpenStreetMap contributors

Book a tee time

Rates change by day and by season, so we send you to Talking Stick Golf Club Piipaash Course's own booking page rather than quoting a figure that was true the week we captured it.

Check tee times and rates

Also bookable nearby: Talking Stick Golf Club Oodham Course (1.0 mi) · Scottsdale Silverado Golf Club (3.0 mi) · Pine at Mccormick Ranch Golf Club (3.1 mi) · Palm at Mccormick Ranch Golf Club (3.3 mi)

Measured against comparable courses

How hard and how long this course plays against comparable courses — never how good it is.

FigureThis courseIn ArizonaNationwideAmong its peers
Longest6,833 yds153rd of 361=3,188th of 12,02584th of 206 in the Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ metro area · =795th of 4,105 public courses · =1,506th of 7,004 courses you can book · =3,167th of 9,017 18-hole regulation courses
Toughest testslope 126=181st of 294=5,028th of 8,710=95th of 171 in the Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ metro area · =1,194th of 2,882 public courses · =2,360th of 4,936 courses you can book · =4,838th of 7,089 18-hole regulation courses
Hardest from the tipsrating 72.0=132nd of 267=4,008th of 7,615=74th of 155 in the Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ metro area · =980th of 2,412 public courses · =1,846th of 4,145 courses you can book · =3,966th of 7,034 18-hole regulation courses
Widest tee spread1,502 yds between tees224th of 348=5,397th of 11,523128th of 201 in the Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ metro area · =1,497th of 3,841 public courses · =2,842nd of 6,653 courses you can book · =5,323rd of 8,962 18-hole regulation courses
Oldestopened 1998=216th of 303=7,592nd of 9,368=125th of 174 in the Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ metro area · =2,562nd of 3,277 public courses · =4,386th of 5,526 courses you can book · =5,574th of 7,001 18-hole regulation courses
Highest above sea level1,306 ft derived 238th of 366=2,051st of 12,437109th of 208 in the Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ metro area · 697th of 4,289 public courses · =1,292nd of 7,274 courses you can book · =1,405th of 9,106 18-hole regulation courses

A published figure is compared only against the courses that publish it too, which is why the totals differ from row to row — a state's length field is the courses with a scorecard, not the courses in the state. Height above sea level is the exception: we derive it from a coordinate, so its field is very nearly every course we render. Ties share an ordinal and are marked =. How this is computed →

What's on this page

In progress5 of 6 built

5 of 6 parts of this course page are built, and we're filling in the rest.

  • Scorecard, built.Par and yardage for every hole, from 5 sets of tees.
  • Course rating and slope, built.Rated from 7 sets of tees.
  • Course map, built.All 18 holes and their greens are drawn, predicted by a model from aerial imagery and shown over it.
  • Per-hole distances, built.Every hole's line of play is predicted from aerial imagery, so carries and distances to the front, middle and back of each green are measured along that predicted line.
  • Green contours, not built yet.We haven't built the green contours for this course yet.
  • Course details, built.All 7 background details — architect, year opened, access, contact and grass.

The site is in beta and the database is still being built, so expect gaps. What's left on this course is ours to build rather than ours to be told — it comes from mapping and survey data, not from a form. Coverage sets out where the whole database stands.

Sources

Gathered from the course's own site and public records — every figure on this page is traceable to who published it and when. Spot an error or a gap? Tell us.

Location and identity seeded from OpenStreetMap — © OpenStreetMap contributors, ODbL. Last checked 2026-08-15. Where each figure came from is stated beside it, above.

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Nearby courses

Talking Stick Golf Club Oodham Course

1.0 mi · Scottsdale · public · 18 holes

Scottsdale Silverado Golf Club

3.0 mi · Scottsdale · public · 18 holes

Pine at Mccormick Ranch Golf Club

3.1 mi · Scottsdale · public · 27 holes

Palm at Mccormick Ranch Golf Club

3.3 mi · Scottsdale · public · 18 holes

Dunes Arroyo at Gainey Ranch Golf Club

3.3 mi · Scottsdale · 18 holes

Scottsdale Shadows Golf Club

3.8 mi · Scottsdale · private · 9 holes

Lakes Dunes at Gainey Ranch Golf Club

3.9 mi · Scottsdale · 18 holes

Ancala Country Club

4.1 mi · Scottsdale · private · 18 holes

Straight-line distance from this course's coordinates, within 60 miles — not driving distance, and it crosses state lines where the nearest courses are over one.

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